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Space Digest                Tue, 20 Apr 93       Volume 16 : Issue 472

Today's Topics:
                 *** HELP  I NEED SOME ADDRESSES ***
                             Biosphere II
                 Cold Gas tanks for Sounding Rockets
Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration.  May 7  Crystal City (4 msgs)
                         Double sonic booms.
       Last call: S/W wizard position at Tandem (Cupertino CA)
                  Looking for a little research help
            Looking for a little research help [ addendum]
                      Magellan Update - 04/16/93
             Science News article on Federal R&D (2 msgs)
                             Space Debris
                    Space Station radio commercial
                        Stereo Pix of planets?
 Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents? (5 msgs)

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 04:13:00 GMT
From: Mitch <[e-mail]>
Subject: *** HELP  I NEED SOME ADDRESSES ***
Newsgroups: sci.space

Hi all,

    I'm trying to get mailing addresses for the following
companies.  Specifically, I need addresses for their personnel
offices or like bureau.  The companies are:

    - AMROC
    - Orbital Sciences Corp. (sp?)
    - Spacehab, Inc.  (I know this one is somewhere in
                Seattle, WA, or at least part of it is.)
    - Space Industries, Inc.  (Somewhere in Houston)
    - Space Enterprises Inc.

If anybody could point me in the right direction on this, I
would be most appreciative.  I prefer an email response, but I
will post a summary if sufficient interest exists.

Thanks,

Mitch-------------------------------->[e-mail]

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Date: 19 Apr 1993 23:39:07 -0400
From: Pat <[e-mail]>
Subject: Biosphere II
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
|In <1q77ku$[e-mail]> Pat writes:
|>The Work is privately funded,  the DATA belongs to SBV.  I don't see
|>either george or Fred,  scoriating IBM research division for
|>not releasing data.
|   We publish plenty kiddo,you just have to look.


Never said you didn't publish, merely that there is data you don't
publish,  and that no-one scoriates you for those cases.

IBM research  publishes plenty, it's why you ended up  with 2 Nobel
prizes in the last 10 years,  but that some projects are deemed
company confidential.  ATT Bell Labs,  keeps lots of stuff private,
Like Karamankars algorithm.  Private moeny is entitled to do what
it pleases, within the bounds of Law,  and For all the keepers of the
temple of SCience,  should please shove their pointy little heads
up their Conically shaped Posterior Orifices.

pat

    who just read the SA article on Karl Fehrabend(sp???)

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Date: 19 Apr 93 17:49:56
From: Craig Powderkeg DeForest <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cold Gas tanks for Sounding Rockets
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (R.D.Lorenz) writes:
   >Does anyone know how to size cold gas roll control thruster tanks
   >for sounding rockets?

   Well, first you work out how much cold gas you need, then make the
   tanks big enough.

Our sounding rocket payload, with telemetry, guidance, etc. etc. and a
telescope cluster, weighs around 1100 pounds.  It uses freon jets for
steering and a pulse-width-modulated controller for alignment (ie
during our eight minutes in space, the jets are pretty much
continuously firing on a ~10% duty cycle or so...).  The jets also
need to kill residual angular momentum from the spin stabilization, and
flip the payload around to look at the Sun.

We have two freon tanks, each holding ~5 liters of freon (I'm speaking
only from memory of the last flight).  The ground crew at WSMR choose how
much freon to use based on some black-magic algorithm.  They have
extra tank modules that just bolt into the payload stack.

This should give you an idea of the order of magnitude for cold gas
quantity.  If you really need to know, send me email and I'll try to get you
in touch with our ground crew people.

Cheers,
Craig

--
DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 22:26:36 GMT
From: "Adam R. Brody " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration. May 7 Crystal City
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] (Pat) writes:


>AW&ST  had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce
>May 7th  at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA.

>Does anyone know more about this?  How much, to attend????

>Anyone want to go?

>pat

I got something in the mail from AIAA about it.  Cost is $75.
Speakers include John Pike, Hohn Young, and Ian Pryke.

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 23:02:36 GMT
From: "S.F. Davis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration.  May 7  Crystal City
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <1quule$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Pat) writes:
|>
|> AW&ST  had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce
|> May 7th  at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA.
|>
|> Does anyone know more about this?  How much, to attend????
|>
|> Anyone want to go?
|>
|> pat

Here are some selected excerpts of the invitation/registration form they
sent me. Retyped without permission, all typo's are mine.

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Low-Cost Lunar Access: A one-day conference to explore the means and
benefits of a rejuvenated human lunar program.

Friday, May 7, 1993
Hyatt Regency - Crystal City Hotel
Arlington, VA

ABOUT THE CONFERENCE
The Low-Cost Lunar Access conference will be a forum for the exchange of
ideas on how to initiate and structure an affordable human lunar program.
Inherent in such low-cost programs is the principle that they be
implemented rapidly and meet their objectives within a short time
frame.

[more deleted]

CONFERENCE PROGRAM (Preliminary)

In the Washington Room:

  9:00 - 9:10 a.m.     Opening Remarks
    Dr. Alan M. Lovelace

  9:10 - 9:30 a.m.     Keynote Address
    Mr. Brian Dailey

  9:30 - 10:00 a.m.    U.S. Policy Outlook
    John Pike, American Federation of Scientists

  A discussion of the prospects for the introduction of a new low-cost
  lunar initiative in view of the uncertain direction the space
  program is taking.

  10:00 - 12:00 noon   Morning Plenary Sessions

  Presentations on architectures, systems, and operational concepts.
  Emphasis will be on mission approaches that produce significant
  advancements beyond Apollo yet are judged to be affordable in the
  present era of severely constrained budgets


In the Potomac Room

  12:00 - 1:30 p.m.    Lunch
    Guest Speaker: Mr. John W. Young,
    NASA Special Assistant and former astronaut

In the Washington Room

  1:30 - 2:00 p.m.     International Policy Outlook
    Ian Pryke (invited)
    ESA, Washington Office

  The prevailing situation with respect to international space
  commitments, with insights into preconditions for European
  entry into new agreements, as would be required for a cooperative
  lunar program.

  2:00 - 3:30 p.m.     Afternoon Plenary Sessions

  Presentations on scientific objectives, benefits, and applications.
  Emphasis will be placed on the scientific and technological value
  of a lunar program and its timeliness.


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There is a registration form and the fee is US$75.00. The mail address
is

     American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics
     Dept. No. 0018
     Washington, DC 20073-0018

and the FAX No. is:

     [phone]

or it says you can register on-site during the AIAA annual meeting
and on Friday morning, May 7, from 7:30-10:30


Sounds interesting. Too bad I can't go.

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Date: 19 Apr 93 19:13:12 -0600
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration.  May 7  Crystal City
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (S.F. Davis) writes:
> In article <1quule$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Pat) writes:
> |>
> |> AW&ST  had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce
> |> May 7th  at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA.
> |>
> |> Does anyone know more about this?  How much, to attend????
> Here are some selected excerpts of the invitation/registration form they
> sent me. Retyped without permission, all typo's are mine.

Thanks for typing that in, Steven.  Sounds like a "fall back and
regroup" strategy session.

I wanted to add that my copy of the brochure arrived with a flattering
cover letter:

"Invitations are being extended to those who have demonstrated a
strong committment to space program development and have been
influential in its advancement.  We sincerely hope you will be able to
attend."

Wow! I wonder which of my contributions to the conquest of space
convinced them to send me this letter?

I hope you decide to go, Pat.  The Net can use some eyes and ears
there...

Bill Higgins          |  If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
Fermilab              |  we put a man on the Moon? -- Bill Engfer
[e-mail] |  If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
[e-mail]   |  we put a woman on the Moon? -- Bill Higgins

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 03:00:12 GMT
From: Josh Hopkins <[e-mail]>
Subject: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration. May 7 Crystal City
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] (Pat) writes:

>AW&ST  had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce
>May 7th  at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA.

>Does anyone know more about this?  How much, to attend????

A good summary has been posted (thanks), but I wanted to add another comment.
I remeber reading the comment that General Dynamics was tied into this, in
connection with their proposal for an early manned landing.  Sorry I don't
rember where I heard this, but I'm fairly sure it was somewhere reputable.
Anyone else know anything on this angle?

Hrumph.  They didn't send _me_ anything :(
--
Josh Hopkins                                          [e-mail]
            "Find a way or make one."
                 -attributed to Hannibal

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 21:06:41 GMT
From: "Carlos G. Niederstrasser" <phoenix.Princeton.EDU![e-mail]>
Subject: Double sonic booms.
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle,sci.space

Every time you read about a shuttle landing they mention the double sonic
booms.  Having taken various relevant classes, I have several ideas of where
they come from, but none of them are very convincing.  Exactly what causes
them?  Are they a one time pheneomenon, or a constant one like the supersonic
shockwave that is constantly produced by a plane, but you hear only when it
goes over you?

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 23:58:04 GMT
From: Mike Fleice <[e-mail]>
Subject: Last call: S/W wizard position at Tandem (Cupertino CA)
Newsgroups: sci.space

Well, we got some responses and are doing some interviews with interesting
responders. However, just in case the other posting was overlooked by an
incredibly talented person ... Mea Culpa for posting this here for Mike,
but we're looking for someone special:

   Tandem Computers is currently looking for a software wizard to help
 us architect & implement a fault-tolerant generalized instrumentation
 subsystem as part of our proprietary operating system kernel (TNS
 Kernel). The TNS Kernel is a proprietary, loosely-coupled parallel,
 message-based operating system. The TNS Kernel has wide connectivity
 to open standards.
   In this key individual contributor role, you will work with other
 developers working on various components of the Transaction Management
 Facility.
   Your background needs to encompass some of the following 4 categories
 (3 of 4 would be excellent):
   Category 1. Math: Working knowledge of statistics, real analysis, as
 used in experimental physics or chemistry, or in engineering.
   Category 2. Working knowledge of telemetry issues-- i.e. time series,
 autocorrelation, and statistical correlation of data streams.
   Category 3. Integration & Test -- Instrumentation of systems under test,
 i.e. payloads, flight modules, etc.
   Category 4: Software Engineering: programming skills, algorithms, and
 systems software techniques.

   Please send your resume to Mike Fleice, Tandem Computers 10555
 Ridgeview Ct., LOC 100-27, Cupertino, CA 95014-0789; Fax [phone];
 or e-mail [e-mail]

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Date: 19 Apr 1993 18:32:46 -0700
From: Milady Printcap the goddess of peripherals <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for a little research help
Newsgroups: sci.space,alt.sci.planetary

Hi,

  I'm writing a science fiction script and I'm looking for some
answers to questions regarding the Moon and Earth. My starting point
is an impossible situation.  [I checked with a professor at berkeley
and his response was a VERY helpful "can't happen".] If you enjoy
playing with unusual ideas and are willing answer some questions
please contact me via e-mail ([e-mail]).

  I get extremely annoyed when screen and tele-plays ignore basic
facts about computers that I'm determined to be as scientifically
accurate as I can.


  Sorry for being vague, but I'd like to protect my idea as much as I
can until I'm ready to sell it (hopefully).

Jennise

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Date: 19 Apr 1993 18:34:51 -0700
From: Milady Printcap the goddess of peripherals <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for a little research help [ addendum]
Newsgroups: sci.space,alt.sci.planetary

Sorry but I forgot this ps.

Right now my sight is getting news about two weeks behind so it's
kind of necessary (to me) that any responses be sent to me directly.


Thanks a lot

Jennise
     [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 07:27:06 GMT
From: Jurriaan Wittenberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Magellan Update - 04/16/93
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Ron Baalke) writes:

>Forwarded from Doug Griffith, Magellan Project Manager
>
>                        MAGELLAN STATUS REPORT
>                            April 16, 1993
>
>
>2.  Magellan has completed 7225 orbits of Venus and is now 39 days from
>the end of Cycle-4 and the start of the Transition Experiment.
Sorry I think I missed a bit of info on this Transition Experiment. What is it?

>4.  On Monday morning, April 19, the moon will occult Venus and
>interrupt the tracking of Magellan for about 68 minutes.
Will this mean a loss of data or will the Magellan transmit data later on ??

BTW: When will NASA cut off the connection with Magellan?? Not that I am
looking forward to that day but I am just curious. I believe it had something
to do with the funding from the goverment (or rather _NO_ funding :-)

ok that's it for now. See you guys around,
Jurriaan.

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 21:29:42 GMT
From: "Charles J. Divine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Science News article on Federal R&D
Newsgroups: sci.space

Just a pointer to the article in the current Science News article
on Federal R&D funding.

Very briefly, all R&D is being shifted to gaining current
competitive advantage from things like military and other work that
does not have as much commercial utility.
--
Chuck Divine

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Date: 19 Apr 93 19:16:50 -0600
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Science News article on Federal R&D
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Charles J. Divine) writes:
> Just a pointer to the article in the current Science News article
> on Federal R&D funding.
>
> Very briefly, all R&D is being shifted to gaining current
> competitive advantage from things like military and other work that
> does not have as much commercial utility.
> --
> Chuck Divine

Gulp.

[Disclaimer:  This opinion is mine and does not represent the views of
Fermilab, Universities Research Association, the Department of Energy,
or the 49th Ward Regular Science Fiction Organization.]

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Date: 19 Apr 1993 21:11:42 GMT
From: CLAUDIO OLIVEIRA EGALON <[e-mail]>
Subject: Space Debris
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.materials

> Keesler, Loftus, Potter, Stansbery, Kubriek....?

I gues it is Keesler. The others do not ring the bell but they might be
involved as well. Sometime ago Keesler was here at Langley teaching
a course on space debris and, if my memory does not fai,l I think there
was even a reference to a book on the subject.

[e-mail]

Claudio Oliveira Egalon

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 21:32:23 GMT
From: "Charles J. Divine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Space Station radio commercial
Newsgroups: sci.space

A brief political/cultural item.

Radio station WGMS in Washington is a classical music station with
a large audience among high officials (elected and otherwise).
Imagine a radio station that advertises Mercedes Benzes, diamond
jewelry, expensive resorts and (truthfully) Trident submarines.

This morning I heard a commercial for the space station project.
Didn't catch the advertiser.

Guess they're pulling out all the stops.
--
Chuck Divine

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 01:03:26 GMT
From: Arthur Chandler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stereo Pix of planets?
Newsgroups: sci.space

Can anyone tell me where I might find stereo images of planetary and
planetary satellite surfaces?  GIFs preferred, but any will do.  I'm
especially interested in stereos of the surfaces of Phobos, Deimos, Mars
and the Moon (in that order).
  Thanks.

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Date: 19 Apr 93 21:05:03 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gene Wright) writes:
> With the continuin talk about the "End of the Space Age" and complaints
> by government over the large cost, why not try something I read about
> that might just work.
>
> Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
> who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
> Then you'd see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin
> to be developed. THere'd be a different kind of space race then!
>
> --
>   [e-mail] (Gene Wright)
> theporch.raider.net  615/297-7951 The MacInteresteds of Nashville
====
If that were true, I'd go for it.. I have a few friends who we could pool our
resources and do it.. Maybe make it a prize kind of liek the "Solar Car Race"
in Australia..
Anybody game for a contest!

==
Michael Adams, [e-mail] -- I'm not high, just jacked

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Date: 19 Apr 93 21:09:22 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
> Gene Wright ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
> : who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
> : Then you'd see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin
> : to be developed. THere'd be a different kind of space race then!
>
> I'm an advocate of this idea for funding Space Station work, and I
> throw around the $1 billion figure for that "reward."  I suggest that
> you increase the Lunar reward to about $3 billion.
>
> This would encourage private industry to invest in space, which
> should be one of NASA's primary goals.
>
> -- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
>       [e-mail]  [phone]
>
>      "Better.  Faster.  Cheaper." -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator


Also would maybe get the Russians Involved. After all they do have the resources
to do it in part.. But they need the capital and the goal..

I wonder if renting the russians resources would be a disqualification?


==
Michael Adams, [e-mail] -- I'm not high, just jacked

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Date: 19 Apr 1993 16:55:00 -0700
From: Peter Schaefer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
|> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gene Wright) writes:
|> > With the continuin talk about the "End of the Space Age" and complaints
|> > by government over the large cost, why not try something I read about
|> > that might just work.
|> >
|> > Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
|> > who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
|> > Then you'd see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin
|> > to be developed. THere'd be a different kind of space race then!
|> >
|> > --
|> >   [e-mail] (Gene Wright)
|> > theporch.raider.net  615/297-7951 The MacInteresteds of Nashville
|> ====
|> If that were true, I'd go for it.. I have a few friends who we could pool our
|> resources and do it.. Maybe make it a prize kind of liek the "Solar Car Race"
|> in Australia..
|> Anybody game for a contest!
|>
|> ==
|> Michael Adams, [e-mail] -- I'm not high, just jacked


Oh gee, a billion dollars!  That'd be just about enough to cover the cost of the
feasability study!  Happy, Happy, JOY! JOY!

Peter F. Schaefer

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 00:17:57 GMT
From: "Gregory N. Bond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gene Wright) writes:

   Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
   who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a
   year.

And with $1B on offer, the problem of "keeping them alive" is highly
likely to involve more than just the lunar environment!

"Oh Dear, my freighter just landed on the roof of ACME's base and they
all died.  How sad.  Gosh, that leaves us as the oldest residents."

"Quick Boss, the slime from YoyoDyne are back, and this time they've
got a tank!  Man the guns!"

One could imagine all sorts of technologies being developed in that
sort of environment.....

Greg.

(I'm kidding, BTW, although the problem of winner-takes-all prizes is
that it encourages all sorts of undesirable behaviour - witness
military procurement programs.  And $1b is probably far too small a
reward to encourage what would be a very expensive and high risk
proposition.)


--
Gregory Bond <[e-mail]> Burdett Buckeridge & Young Ltd Melbourne Australia
   Knox's 386 is slick.            Fox in Sox, on Knox's Box
   Knox's box is very quick.       Plays lots of LSL. He's sick!
(Apologies to John "Iron Bar" Mackin.)

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Date: 20 Apr 93 00:14:28 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gregory N. Bond) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gene Wright) writes:
>
>>    Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
>>    who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a
>>    year.
>
> And with $1B on offer, the problem of "keeping them alive" is highly
> likely to involve more than just the lunar environment!
>
> "Oh Dear, my freighter just landed on the roof of ACME's base and they
> all died.  How sad.  Gosh, that leaves us as the oldest residents."
>
> "Quick Boss, the slime from YoyoDyne are back, and this time they've
> got a tank!  Man the guns!"
>
> One could imagine all sorts of technologies being developed in that
> sort of environment.....
>
> Greg.
>
> (I'm kidding, BTW, although the problem of winner-takes-all prizes is
> that it encourages all sorts of undesirable behaviour - witness
> military procurement programs.  And $1b is probably far too small a
> reward to encourage what would be a very expensive and high risk
> proposition.)
> -
> Gregory Bond <[e-mail]> Burdett Buckeridge & Young Ltd Melbourne Australia

Hey!  My dad has an old hangar and Judy has some old rockets in her attic,
let's put on a Lunar program! . . .  Sounds good, but . . .
Let's play a game - What would be a reasonable reward?  What companies would
have a reasonable shot at pulling off such a feat?  Just where in the
budget would the reward come from?  Should there be a time limit?  Would a
straight cash money award be enough or should we throw in say . . .
exclusive mining rights for the first fifty years? You get the idea.

I'd like to play but I don't have a clue to the answers.

Tom Freebairn   | He who refuses to understand math
                | will probably never get his checkbook figured out.

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Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.materials

From: Farmer Ted <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Space Debris
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Followup-To:  There is this guy at NASA Langley
Sender: USENET News System <[e-mail]>
Nntp-Posting-Host: rintintin.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 21:09:31 GMT
Lines: 14
Source-Info:  Sender is really [e-mail]
Source-Info:  Sender is really [e-mail]

> There is this buy at NASA Langley...




YES! Give me his name I would greatly appreciate it.



Rich

"The Earth is a cradle of the mind.  But, we cannot live forever in a cradle"
                         K.E. Tsiolkovski
             Father of Russian Astronautics

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